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honey the monster, codewitch wrote: My codebase, excluding binaries has now reached 600k of C# code.
And, now you are pausing, until your Lounge posts catch up ? 
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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naturally
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Hmm. My C#/XAML/C++ source code for one of our products runs to 322MB, spread over 115 folders containing 1699 files.
Of course, I have been working on this beast since 2008, so... 
Software Zen: delete this;
modified 7-Aug-19 13:37pm.
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i hope a lot of that is generated.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Oops. Correction. It should be 322MB. I accidentally included a company library that I didn't write.
That total doesn't include any generated code (*.Designer.cs and such). It's only the sources I authored by hand.
Software Zen: delete this;
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that's a lot of code. you get a cookie =)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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The funny thing is my part of the product is the UI, which adds relatively little in the way of product functionality. The actual working parts are several Windows services written by the rest of my group.
For the old-timers in the crowd, we did a line count a few years ago out of curiousity. At that time this product had 2.5 million lines of code.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Wait till you hit the 1M lines of code club. It took me quite a while to get there, and it takes a certain level of Rain Man style commitment.
Explorans limites defectum
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I'm sure I have, as I've been coding for 32 years, much of it professionally. I've definitely worked on projects far exceeding that, like Windows XP.
However, I have not on a personal project. Pck might be one of my larger personal endeavors, I think, aside from Grimoire, which isn't for release.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I guess if I count non-personal work, it might be closer to 1.25M I guess. But my personal code base is right at 1M, probably slightly more now since I've not checked it in a while.
Explorans limites defectum
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So, Win10 has made the Title bar of every window extremely small -- they've collapsed it and added the toolbar (icons) directly to the nav bar.
Now, I often have trouble even finding a place that will accept a "grab" when I need to drag and drop the window somewhere else.
For example, in MS Word you can only grab the nav bar in the middle of the window.
Shown here between the two "off limits" red boxes : https://i.stack.imgur.com/LspUm.png[^]
Small Space To Grab Window
That means if you need to grab your window from the left or the right side -- because other windows are obscuring it -- you cannot. Instead you have to make sure you can see the middle of the window and grab it there.
Other Apps - Different Locations
However, in other apps, the only place you can grab are small places at the edges.
In FireFox for example, you can only grab the nav bar in the two small locations shown in this image:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/zCjbT.png[^]
No Consistency
So, as windows overlap each other there is no consistent place to grab a window to move it.
It's quite annoying and a waste of time.
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You obviously haven't been stuck with using the edge browser.
I think they called it "edge" because there's only 1 cm of one edge that's safe to grab it by.
What you have to remember is that winio is designed to be used on mobile (cell) phones, where every app is full-screen, so making it possible to grab background screens really isn't an issue.
So get with the program!
Stop coding on a computer!
Do everything on your phone!
It's The Way of the Future!
Bloody Luddites!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Do everything on your phone!
Done and done!
(This reply was typed and sent using my Android phone.) 
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i did run a *nix shell prompt from a rooted phone of mine way back when. i hate typing with my thumbs though so i gave it up.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the monster, codewitch wrote: i hate typing with my thumbs though
So do I. That's why I only type with my forefingers.
Everywhere I go, I'm one of the slowest typists -- but the most productive, usually by far.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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What version of Office are you using? I use Windows 10 with an older version of Office and the "grab" areas are normal size. So it's probably not a Windows thing.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
modified 7-Aug-19 9:22am.
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IT recently upgraded us so that may be part of it.
I believe it is Office 2016. (But it is difficult to find the version in there. No real Help...About... )
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Part 2 on "What Version?"
Wow, it is really difficult to find that info. Had to find the Excel.exe and do a File...Properties on it.
It ends up being version 16.0.11901.20176
Everything is weird now. 
Here's a snapshot:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/Gm2cA.png[^]
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raddevus wrote: Wow, it is really difficult to find that info. Had to find the Excel.exe and do a File...Properties on it.
File -> Office Account.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: File -> Office Account.
Never would've guessed that. It makes sense that after all these years of Help...About... in every product you can think of that Microsoft decides to change the place where you find version info.
Also, in Outlook it is File...Office Account...
In Word it is just File...Account... So chalk up another for consistency. 
We seem to be running Office 365 and it is version 1907 (I believe that is the year it was developed).
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In Word, select File --> Account. This gives you the basic information. Mine says:
Microsoft Office 365 ProPlus
and below that:
version 1906 (build 11727.20244 Click-to-Run)
I had not paid attention before this, but MS is using the same naming schema as Windows.
Click About Word to get more details. When when Microsoft posts a version number, they hide it in plain sight. My version is listed on the About dialog as:
Microsoft Word for Office 365 MSO (16.0.11727.20222) 32-bit
The average end user may not recognize it as version 16 ...
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Thanks, it is crazy that even the place to get version info has moved. I mean Help...About... is in every app for over 20 years and now I have to go to File...Account (and File...Office Account... in Outlook - no consistency).
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The Office team has run out of real functionality to implement, so it appears they make cosmetic changes that provide an illusion of change without producing anything useful.
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You're forgetting how much they break, with each release.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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