Application Lifecycle

4-Oct-12 1:37

Hello together,

we want to run benchmark tests on our testing PC.
We were suprised that the benchmark sometimes shows strong deviations. (sometimes only 20% of the best benchmark value, with several windows versions).
I can not explain what happens there.
We even made an image of the pc's hard drive that we reinstall every time we run the (two) benchmarks.
Still we have those deviations.

The next time when i will do some testing i will check if the following services are not running

- the index service
- the defragmentation service
- the antivir service

Do you have any ideas what has do be stopped/made/run in addition to the above to make the benchmark more consistent.

I hope this is the right forum for this.

Regards

Sascha

jschell4-Oct-12 11:47

jschell

4-Oct-12 11:47

S. Becker wrote:
to make the benchmark more consistent.

My guess would be that your benchmark is either just wrong or you do not understand what it is measuring.

Should note as well that attempting to measure a PC/OS without understanding the real business use (generally an application) is an excercise that is doomed to fail.

S. Becker5-Oct-12 2:00

5-Oct-12 2:00

We did the benchmark tests with two different benchmark tools and both showed those strong deviations. So i do not think
that it is a problem of the benchmark tools.
The way the benchmark is run is defined in a word document.
Even if we would not understand what has been measured: if the input is the same the output should be also the same.
My job is now to make clear what went wrong because if the (benchmark) pc not allways produces the (more or less) same result
how can our software be measured.

Thank you.

Regards

Sascha

Richard MacCutchan5-Oct-12 2:52

Richard MacCutchan

5-Oct-12 2:52

S. Becker wrote:
We did the benchmark tests with two different benchmark tools

Maybe you should talk to the people who provided the tools. Benchmarking computers is a difficult activity at the best of times because there are so many variables to be taken into account, particularly with multi-tasking operating systems.

One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

jschell5-Oct-12 9:55

jschell

5-Oct-12 9:55

S. Becker wrote:
how can our software be measured.

By running your software and exposing it to various loads.

S. Becker22-Oct-12 21:33

Re: TFS build best practise

22-Oct-12 21:33

In the end it was a mix of a to small sample for calculating the relative variance and some unnecessary processes (upgrade service for ex.)

Now with the bigger sample and the stopped processes the results are more consistent.

Thank you for your help.

Regards

Sascha

TFS build best practise

tomas.ivan2-Sep-12 21:19

tomas.ivan

2-Sep-12 21:19

Hi, I'd like to know the best practise for this situation :

Once upon a time, there was a project (A), whose output is mixture of exe and dll files. One needs to create an installation package using the InstallShield and to have also the installation package in version control. The build should run on the build server.
As fas as I know there are two usable ways, how to setup this:

1. one solution S with project A and second InstallShield project. The input for the InstallShield project would be the primary output of the project A.
The build solution BS will include this solution S.
The dll files are not in source control, however there is a possibility to build them.

2. one solution S1 with the project A, that would have after build process - copy output to some destination. Second solution S2 with setup project that takes input from that destination, as a prebuild action it makes check-in of the dll files. The build solution BS will include this solution S2. The dll files are in the source control (preffered).
I don't know whether it is possible to set some prebuild action to InstallShield (LT version).

If you have some ideas how to solve things like this please share it. Maybe there is some really simple solution that I don't know. Thanks Smile | :)

jschell4-Sep-12 12:15

jschell

4-Sep-12 12:15

tomas.ivan wrote:
there was a project (A), whose output is mixture of exe and dll files.

tomas.ivan wrote:
The dll files are not in source control, however there is a possibility to build
them.

Either those two statements are mutually exclusive or you think that the dlls need to be in source control after the build complete. For the second part the dlls need no more been in source control than the install executable is.

Ignoring that and looking at a high level view then...

A configuration management (CM) person is a person whose job or at least a principle role is to do builds. And only do builds (the role.)

And given the following two possibilities.

A - Two solutions. One used only be developers. Second that includes projects of first solutions in addition to install shield.

B - One solution. Includes common developer projects and InstallShield.

With a CM person/role then use A. If not then B. Might keep in mind that InstallShield licenses, specifically cost, might require at least a CM role (versus every developer managing InstallShield.)

Mercurial: Pushing and Pulling Between Local Branches

M-Badger4-Jul-12 7:25

M-Badger

4-Jul-12 7:25

I have just started using Mercurial, for a website project in this case.
It is all done on a local repo (backed up), not using BitBucket (or similar host).

===Preamble===
This is my first step into version control beyond keeping sepearte folders, one for production (essentially a static folder representing the current live state) and one for development (both feature updates and content). The prior approach was beginning to give me all kinds of headaches when I had an incomplete feature but needed to update the content, keeping the two folders in sync (for content only) was horrid.

I started by doing the features in a clone and content updates in the original. Then Pulling the Feature clone into the original clone (and managing conflicts was a pita but not really that bad), but have now switched to using named branches and it's working absolutely fine. I haven't tried bookmarks yet, simply haven't found a reason that has caused me to understand what they do differently to named branches).
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===The Question===
The one thing I can't work out how to do is to move single changesets from one branch to another. Let's say I have a feature branch that has 5 changesets but is incomplete, then I need to make a bug fix to the live site. I make the bug fix in the default branch and want to push it into the feature branch but without merging - otherwise the merge would have an incomplete (broken) feature!
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===Extra Info===
For clarity I need to get the bug fix out to the live server and whilst I might do the work in a new branch, once done it would get merged back into the default, so once again I'd have two branches, default and the feature branch.

I think, from descriptions I have read (but haven't tried), that this kind of thing is pretty easy to do when you are using BitBucket (or similar host), you just pull the specific changeset (and its history) into your local clone. So I imagine it's also easy to do so between local clones (again I haven't tried it), but for lone nor money i can't work out how to do it within a single repo - i.e. between local branches.
===========

Any help gratefully received.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Mercurial: Pushing and Pulling Between Local Branches

Albert Holguin21-Aug-12 7:35

Albert Holguin

21-Aug-12 7:35

I haven't used mercurial as much as I've used SVN.... but in SVN, you can merge certain revision numbers instead of doing everything at once. That would get you exactly what you want, but I'm not sure how it's done in mercurial. In SVN, all you would have to do if figure out what changes you want based on looking at the log of your branch, write down the numbers of the revisions, then go to the trunk and do a manual merge, on that merge, you can specify to only merge the revision numbers you want.

I know this really only directly applies to SVN but you may be able to think of a way to do it based on how it's done on SVN.

Codename Needed

iPick1223-May-12 19:59

iPick12

23-May-12 19:59

I'm currently looking for a codename for an operating system. I started with Pole OS, but I'm not sure if it's nice, and easy to remember. Also I came up with another codename, Prodane, but I'm not sure whether I should use it, as Prodane is not an actual word in any language. So, do you have any ideas? Please let me know. Also, If you can thing of a logo, you'd be very helpful.

Richard MacCutchan23-May-12 22:19

Richard MacCutchan

23-May-12 22:19

It's probably a better idea to write and test it first. Names often suggest themselves during the development of projects based on experience and feedback from beta testers. Alternatively you could name it after your cat.

Programming is work, it isn't finger painting. Luc Pattyn

Further definition

iPick1224-May-12 2:57

iPick12

24-May-12 2:57

I have already developed the biggest part of the project, and it is named Pole OS, but I don't understand, how could the beta testers and the feedback help me reach a codename? And anyway, I've heard that some projects are initially developed without a name (like iOS). Any idea how is that? I mean, what do they show the user when they start up?

The project site is:
http://sites.google.com/site/fxpoleos/

Thanks for your help! Smile | :)

Re: Further definition

Richard MacCutchan24-May-12 3:05

Richard MacCutchan

24-May-12 3:05

iPick12 wrote:
I've heard that some projects are initially developed without a name (like iOS).

True, or just given a temporary name. Some I have heard in my professional life: Rowanoaks, Fullstream, Greenbay ...

iPick12 wrote:
I mean, what do they show the user when they start up?

Anything they like, why does it matter?

Just display something like:

Pole OS Copyright iPick12
version 0.1.3.27 (Beta)

Programming is work, it isn't finger painting. Luc Pattyn

Re: Further definition

iPick1224-May-12 3:34

iPick12

24-May-12 3:34

Thanks

R. Giskard Reventlov4-Jul-12 9:57

R. Giskard Reventlov

4-Jul-12 9:57

Warsaw?

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Eddy Vluggen11-Aug-12 4:45

Eddy Vluggen

11-Aug-12 4:45

"Copy of ReactOS"?

Bastard Programmer from Hell Suspicious | :suss:

if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

S. Becker4-Oct-12 1:52