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Quote: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
This isn't one of those times.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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You should add it as a tip
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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I can not believe how badly they have screwed the pooch on this. I've posted about this before and submitted bug reports and and they have done it yet again. With the 17.4.4 update (I think it was) Visual Studio's batch build option lost the ability to remember which of your build targets you want to build. They then fixed it a release or two later. With the 17.5.0 update it was broke again and fixed again at the next release. Yesterday they released 17.6.0 and this is broken again.
For me, this is a major pain in the backside. I have one solution with 24 projects, another with 40, and several more with 10. Now I have to waste a considerable amount of time selecting the desired build targets whenever I load one of those or I build them all and that wastes even more time.
I am so infuriated right now that I think I will wait until tomorrow to update my bug report. It won't matter very much because this is an issue raised by quite a number of people. One guy remarked that he gave up on it and has resorted to batch files. I am dang nearly at that point myself.
Actually, what I should be doing is waiting until I see what new and annoying bugs there are with each new release before I do any updates. I certainly will in the future.
ETA: 17.6.3 was released today and it is still broken. A corporate representative posted on 25 May that the issue is fixed and awaiting release.
ETA: 17.7.0 was released today and it is FIXED! At long, long last. It was still broken in releases 17.6.4 and 17.6.5 so this is very welcome news.
ETA: they have released versions 17.7.1, 17.7.2, and 17.7.3 and it wasn't broken on any of them. I have to state that I am very, very surprised but in a good way.
ETA: While 17.7.3 did not break this option, it changed a whole bunch of my settings and it has been very annoying resetting them.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
modified 30-Aug-23 17:51pm.
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But hey, the icons are shiny!

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the shine so overwhelming you cannot see the issues anymore
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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I do not install the 17.{x}.0 updates.
Waiting for 17.{x}.4 or .5 updates brings less anger.
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This problem has been fixed in release 17.7.0.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I think I ran into something similar a while back. 29 projects in the solution and it would forget which projects depended on which and build them out of order.
I ended up setting the max number of concurrent project builds to 1 and it seems to have worked around the problem.
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I'm a bit slow on the uptake here but that's what I always do (one concurrent build at a time) and that made no difference for me.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I don't know about the update but the bugginess of VS2022 is infuriating.
I'm programming a WinForms project and the Tools in the Tool window disappear on a regular basis or are grayed out.
The properties window is blank at times.
Sometimes designers refuse to load...on and on!
WTF, is there no QA anymore? This is not a new product, it's been out as a preview for quite a while.
So again I say WTF?
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else.
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I have a few close friends that work for Microsoft, and they are developers there.
I am not saying this is the reason, but it may be a contributing factor: too many young people with subpar work ethic. I've preached about this in other threads over the years, but my friends brought this up to me before, a few times. I guess its becoming a big deal/issue there.
It would explain or partially explain the increased lackluster rollouts and releases, the bugs that should have been caught during normal testing processes, etc. - the silly, stupid stuff that should never occur.
Hey, go woke, go broke. You get what you pay for. If Microsoft wants to pay for shite, then they get shite. Just saying...
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Things that are a thing of the past;
Customer Service
Work Ethic
Responsibility for ones actions
Privacy
Unity
etc..
I could go on and on but the soap box is no longer available!
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else.
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Not just Microsoft, it's everywhere.
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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Mike Hankey wrote: WTF, is there no QA anymore?
Almost as bad, inept QA.
Our esteemed QA department (what I call our one guy) closed a Jira that wasn't even yet in his queue. I had to call him out in Standup yesterday. I asked him how he tested the change, in all 5 different applications it went in, when I intentionally had NOT moved the code into the branch that builds the QA environment. "I just saw it was related to the one application as the other stories I was testing and moved it over."
Later I went back and checked the story and sure enough in my description was what he SHOULD have seen if the code had been migrated over. Since it wasn't, the message wouldn't have appeared and he should have Failed the story. I now know he didn't even READ the story before passing it. This is not the first time he has done this.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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I have a little IoT audio development board - an AI Thinker ESP32 Audio Kit Version 2.2 rev 2957. The thing is supposed to able to be developed into an Alexa type device.
The problem with it is the documentation is maybe the worst I've ever seen. It claimed that the audio chip was an ES8388. It's an AC101, which isn't even similar.
Worse, there are at least 3 different versions of "Version 2.2" with different pinouts, none of which are specifically documented, requiring you to piece together snatches of old documentation, messageboard responses, and just random detritus from google and wave a dead chicken over the whole thing and maybe it will work.
I've been working on it all day and am not at the point where it produces sound yet. I can turn an LED off and on.
Would not recommend to a friend. Skip AI-Thinker and an get an Espressif LyraT board instead. Meh.
Edit: I got mine making sound finally but who knows how many boards this works for.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
modified 3-Apr-23 4:47am.
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Quote: Possibly the hottest mess I've seen in some time
Word for word what I thought when I met my wife
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Don't you keep working on stuff like that just for the great feeling when you finally make it work?
Been there, done that, but not on that particulr board.
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Don't know if this is what you're looking for but I bought one recently and it's a pretty decent device.
I was looking for an Alexa type device but not cloud based.
Audeme - Home[^]
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Cool. I'm looking to avoid the Arduino ecosystem, as it's more bulky, pricey and less powerful than I'm used to as a general rule. I ordered a couple of different ESP32 based LyraT boards which are sort of gold standard boards for doing this sort of thing in the ESP32 world.
But yeah, that's basically what I'm doing. I intend to release a library for it, so maybe I'll end up supporting the Arduino boards down the road, but I'm really focused on the ESP32 line.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
modified 3-Apr-23 15:30pm.
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I'm fixing to convert it to use with ARM, I going away from Arduino.
I'd eventually like to do some Home IoT stuff...if I ever get the time.
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Mike Hankey wrote: if I ever get the time.
Time is such a precious commodity when you are retired ... sometimes I wonder how I found time to work
Mircea
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You got that right.
I work more now than I did when I worked full time.
Difference is there's no pressure to get them done.
Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not!
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Mike Hankey wrote: I work more now than I did when I worked full time.
Difference is there's no pressure to get them done.
Yeah, Ain't that the truth. I left salaried employment to start my own shop, but
I worked twice as hard as I did when I had an actual job!
Then I retired, or at least I drew my retirement, so now I only spend about 8 or 9 hours in front of the keyboard tinkering with projects that interest me!
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